Campaigns Wikia:IRC Arbitration Board Discussion

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This discussion took place on November 25th, 2006.

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• <chadlupkes> anyone else show up?
• <Wikizach> Anyone here
• <chadlupkes> yes
• <Wikizach> Hello
• <Whosawhatsis> yup
• <Wikizach> So, just us
• <Wikizach> Do you think the Arbitration board will pass
• <chadlupkes> Yes, I do.
• <Wikizach> Would you "run" for it
• <chadlupkes> I actually think it will help calm things down a bit. We need to stop producing policies and focus on content.
• <Whosawhatsis> I'm voting against it
• <Wikizach> And get more people
• <Wikizach> Why
• <chadlupkes> I'm the lead admin, so I'm not eligible.
• <Wikizach> yes you are
• <chadlupkes> Yes, getting more people involved is important. That's why I'm focused on Outreach.
• <chadlupkes> I'm not stepping down from Admin.
• <Wikizach> Ok
• <Wikizach> I think you would be good at it (sigh)
• <Wikizach> Why are you against it
• <Wikizach> Whosawhatsis, why are you against it
• <Whosawhatsis> we are forming too much bureaucracy while the number of contributing users is shrinking
• <Whosawhatsis> at this rate, we'll have more jobs than people to fill them
• <chadlupkes> I see the concern, and I agree that we may have to slow the growth of the board to reflect the actual population.
• <Wikizach> If we increase the population wo/ a way of arbitration, things are bound to come up
• <Wikizach> Thats why only 3 would fill the first job
• <chadlupkes> Agreed. They come up now, and there is no "neutral" body to go to. Staff doesn't count, mostly because they are too busy.
• <Wikizach> So, let's focus on outreach this last month before the elections (hopefully if it passes)
• <Wikizach> I may not be so active, I have to be a real judge in GA
• <chadlupkes> My only real concern with the policy is the limit to how long someone can serve on the board. I think if someone gains a lot of experience in the rules, policies and history of the site, we should take advantage of that experience.
• <Wikizach> Well, after, i think it's four terms, with a 2/3 vote, we can allow the person to run more times
• <Wikizach> The reason for that is what if the person abuses his power
• <Wikizach> Four terms is two years
• <chadlupkes> If someone abuses the power, there should be a way to call them on it.
• <Wikizach> Hense, the way to expel them
• <chadlupkes> Each seat is up once a year.
• <chadlupkes> at least the way I did the sequencing.
• <Wikizach> So four terms is four years, who would do it for five?
• <Wikizach> I understand what you say, but if a person is really that popular, 2/3 would be easy to get
• <Wikizach> test
• <Wikizach> testing
• <Wikizach> blue
• <Wikizach> .
• <Wikizach> Chadlupkes, any other internet sites you work with?
• <Wikizach> Alright then
• <Wikizach> Anyone still here?
• <Whosawhatsis> yeah
• <Wikizach> Ok'
• <chadlupkes> busy making an edit.
• <chadlupkes> I'm VERY busy online.
• <Wikizach> So why do you oppose it, when only three seats to fill?
• <Wikizach> So why do you oppose it, when only three seats to fill?
• <chadlupkes> It's possible that growth every six months may be too fast.
• <chadlupkes> Whether that works or not will depend on how successful our outreach efforts are.
• <Wikizach> When did this wikia start anyway?
• <chadlupkes> July 4th
• <Wikizach> it's been here for only like 5 months, and we already are doing good (for a political wikia)
• <Wikizach> Outreach will increase when our focus is shifted away from policy after policy
• <chadlupkes> A small number of people have done the majority of the work.
• <chadlupkes> I certainly agree with that.
• <Wikizach> So, once the policy stuff is dealt with, we focus on the actual stuff and outreach
• <Whosawhatsis> there was a boom when it made the front page of digg, but participation has been dropping pretty steadily since then
• <Wikizach> Digg? what is that?
• <Whosawhatsis> http://digg.com/
• <Wikizach> thanks
• <Whosawhatsis> it's a news site where users vote for articles to determine whether they appear on the front page
• <Wikizach> k
• <Wikizach> Maybe we should increase it through Wikipedia
• <Wikizach> I was once involved with a new "city" called tirben, it stopped after the buzz stopped
• <Wikizach> We need enough people to chat about it there
• <Wikizach> I certainly can get the Esperanza side buzzing
• <chadlupkes> That's discouraged by the Wikipedia community.
• <Wikizach> Yet, half the stuff in Esperanza are talks about games, etc.
• <chadlupkes> And it's discouraged rather strongly. They don't like Wikia for some reason, probably due to rivalry.
• <Wikizach> Isn't it part of the Wikipedia company?
• <chadlupkes> No, it's a separate company.
• <Wikizach> With support from Jimbo?
• <chadlupkes> Jimbo started it as a separate project.
• <Wikizach> Ok, gotta go
• <Wikizach> See ya'll later
• <chadlupkes> k
• <chadlupkes> I'll save this chat.
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